Pauline Shangett, CSO of ChangeNOW | “You’re Not Decentralized on Big Cloud” — DeFi Myths, CeDeFi & Building for Real Users | Bitcoin.com News Podcast

Pauline Shangett, Chief Strategy Officer at ChangeNOW, joins David Sencil (@_dsencil) at Bitcoin Asia to cut through the noise on decentralization, infrastructure, and what it takes to serve real users at scale.

“If you’re building on centralized cloud, you’re not truly decentralized.” Shangett explains the hidden centralization risks across today’s Web3 stack, why CeDeFi can bridge usability and trustlessness, and how ChangeNOW approaches onboarding, custody, and compliance without sacrificing self-sovereignty.

From lost Bitcoin recoveries to pragmatic infra choices, this is a sober look at what actually works — and what doesn’t — when taking crypto mainstream.

• Why most “DeFi” quietly relies on centralized cloud
• CeDeFi as a realistic path to mass adoption
• ChangeNOW’s user-first design for swaps, fiat ramps & custody
• Frameworks for resilience beyond the cloud vs. hardware meme
• How to onboard real people, not just crypto insiders

A must-listen for builders, infra teams, and DeFi pragmatists who want decentralization that survives contact with reality.

🎙️ Host: David Sencil – Bitcoin.com News Podcast
💼 Guest: Pauline Shangett – Chief Strategy Officer, ChangeNOW
🔗 Learn more: bitcoin.com | changenow.io

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