About this episode
In Episode 50 of Token Narratives, Graham Stone and Bitcoin.com Chief Scientist Andrei Terentiev break down one of Bitcoin’s most divisive debates: should the long-standing OP_RETURN guardrails be lifted? Developer Peter Todd says the limits are obsolete, while Ocean Mining’s Jason Hughes warns it could flood Bitcoin with spam and wreck its monetary identity. Andrei unpacks the nerdy but essential governance battle — from Bitcoin Core’s rough consensus model to the slippery slope fears raised by Samson Mow.Shifting gears, the duo explores the explosive rise of tokenized real-world assets (RWAs), spotlighting Apollo’s new leveraged credit fund on Polygon. They explain how DeFi loops crank modest yields into double-digit returns, why private credit is an ideal fit for on-chain strategies, and how institutional players like Apollo are transforming DeFi’s landscape.Also on deck:
• Miner cost-of-production signals and why they’re bullish for Bitcoin
• The M2 money supply correlation and why liquidity is back
• Bitcoin on exchanges hitting historic lows — and what it says about sell pressure
• How stablecoins are quietly outpacing banks
• RWA tokenization’s future: credit loops, fractional real estate, and tokenized debt
• Bitcoin-inspired Truth of the Week: how fiat debasement rewrites every contract you hold, and why Bitcoin fixes thisWhether you’re a governance geek, DeFi yield farmer, or just watching Bitcoin’s march to a new all-time high, this episode delivers sharp insights on what’s next.Timestamps
00:39 Bitcoin miner cost of production signal
04:27 Bitcoin price setup vs. M2 money supply
07:41 Low BTC on exchanges and BTCFi impact
14:25 Bitcoin guardrails debate: OP_RETURN controversy
23:03 Bitcoin governance — oligarchy, forks, and rough consensus
26:26 Slippery slope fears in Bitcoin Core development
26:50 Apollo’s tokenized credit fund launch on Polygon
29:53 How DeFi leverage loops crank up yield
42:00 The future of RWAs: income for Bitcoin holders
51:36 Bitcoin-inspired truth: fiat debasement rewrites your contracts
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May 2, 2025